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The Aughts and Teeny Boppy Years of the New Millennium In Heavy MusicExhibit A: I’m doing this thing on Facebook, ten album challenge: 1 0 all time favorite albums which really made an impact and are still on your rotation list, even if only now and then. Post the cover, no need to explain. Stupid little social media thing, but it's allowed me to reflect through my whole life across genres and muse about ten albums that have had a profound influence on my life.Exhibit B: Goldi’s grand infernal Vortex spreadsheet from hell has had the unintended consequence of partially dampening my current enthusiasm of metal. Don’t get me wrong, the spreadsheet is a great idea and I solute Goldi and his staff for knocking a little idea out of the arena.

I may have been burning out at the dawn of the new year anyway. But, I find myself listening to less new metal than I have in a number of years and spending more time with non metal genres more. It really started last year with an exploration into classic punk and post punk.Opening Statements: Particularly in the genres of death and blackened death. Last year had some excellent releases in those categories. Necroblood, Triumvir Foul, Immolation, Incantation, Profane Order, Impetuous Ritual, Undergang, Venenum, Phrenelith and on and on.

It’s early on in the year and the spreadsheet simply highlights the absurd volume of releases in a way that’s right under my nose and so I feel compelled to sample a lot of it. But, the net result for me is a big, collective sigh of Meh.So, I’ve gone back and looked at my list of albums from the early auights and come to the conclusion that these years were some fertile years in metal and in retrospect there has been a dip as of late in terms of defining death metal albums among other genres for my listening. There have been excellent veteran comeback or reunion albums and albums that nod to the old school, but short of dissonance, relatively little that feels decade-defining.Part of this feeling might simply be that 2003-4 was when I started actively following extreme metal after dipping my toes in late 90’s stoner and doom. When you get turned onto a new style of metal, you consume everything with great appetite.

And, now that the years have flown by and I’m well past my mid-life embracing of modern metal in my very late 30’s, I’ve come to look back to the auights as time that brought a great deal of excitement to my listening. Sadly, I've lost some of that loving feeling in 2018.Here we go: It all kind of blends in regarding album purchases because some of those first albums I bought may have been a few years old when I purchased them. I bought a bunch of classic Stoner first- Kyuss, Monster Magnet, Fu Manchu, Nebula, Electric Wizard and Wino’s various output.

But those albums were already dated when I picked them up around 2002-2003. Well, look, you can never go home again (literary reference, look it up.) The stuff that defined a transition point in one's life is going to standout as a high point, and that's what a person is going to judge something current against. You'll never reclaim newness or the awe inspired by it. That's not to discount how great those albums actually were/are.

But given experience, a person's objective opinion of something similar is always going to be colo(u)red by emotions that were incited that triggered chemical reactions that over time can't be felt at the same level, based on biology alone. Bear with me, I've been drinking. In short, the reaction you had biologically to something totally new can only be repeated by the exposure to something else totally new, so you're chasing the dragon my friend. In other words, it's impossible to be totally objective about the way you felt the first time around.

Of course nothing measures up and you get bored.It kind of makes me envious of WN having a narrower focus because with that laser-like precision a person's expectations are expertly targeted over time, whereas for those of us wanting to be wowed by a new sound, it's a bit like stumbling through the dark hoping you collide with the object that puts a smile on your face instead of a frown. It's hit-or-miss, and mostly miss. But I feel ya. The doldrums of even bothering only become bearable by cleansing your palate with something completely unrelated. Until you start to relate it, and then start looking for stuff within metal that is tangential or comparable only to be disappointed on the whole.

And the vicious cycle then repeats.There's no easy answers. I think your celebration (rightly I might add) of Fu Manchu this year is a telltale sign that you are resetting. Ich gcp guidelines 2019 pdf download.

But it's not an absolute. You'll go back-and-forth between resetting and new discovery off and on. You'll enjoy your jazz, classical, post-punk and hardcore. And after you've detoxed a bit, I wouldn't be surprised to find you wowed by something new in the metal arena.From a personal perspective, I think January and February of this year were far better than March and, so far, April.

So it's been pretty rough listening for me recently when it comes to new releases. I think that's only a very small part of what you're feeling though. Regardless, have a cold craft brew, kick back with some Paganini or Art Blakey, turn it up, tune out, and when you need to be bludgeoned awake from your near stupor (just kidding), your old metal favorites will be waiting for you, and the Vortex will do its damnedest to taste-make for you so you don't have to think about it so hard. Scourge wrote:Well, look, you can never go home again (literary reference, look it up.) The stuff that defined a transition point in one's life is going to standout as a high point, and that's what a person is going to judge something current against. You'll never reclaim newness or the awe inspired by it. That's not to discount how great those albums actually were/are. But given experience, a person's objective opinion of something similar is always going to be colo(u)red by emotions that were incited that triggered chemical reactions that over time can't be felt at the same level, based on biology alone.

Bear with me, I've been drinking. In short, the reaction you had biologically to something totally new can only be repeated by the exposure to something else totally new, so you're chasing the dragon my friend. In other words, it's impossible to be totally objective about the way you felt the first time around.

Of course nothing measures up and you get bored.From a personal perspective, I think January and February of this year were far better than March and, so far, April. So it's been pretty rough listening for me recently when it comes to new releases. I think that's only a very small part of what you're feeling though.

Regardless, have a cold craft brew, kick back with some Paganini or Art Blakey, turn it up, tune out, and when you need to be bludgeoned awake from your near stupor (just kidding), your old metal favorites will be waiting for you, and the Vortex will do its damnedest to taste-make for you so you don't have to think about it so hard.Scourgey that was really excellent. Maybe you should drink more oftenWell, for all I know you do, but after all that weight you lost, I was thinking you weren't so much. Some great ideas and I appreciate your incites.

I think you're right about a lot of that. In the meantime, indeed I'll wait for the next something or other that kicks my ass.

Until then, I enjoy following you guys, staying marginally in the loop and I'll always have heavy music in my life to one extent or the other. Indeed, I'll wait for a Through Silver In Blood/ Leviathan/Oceanic/Pervertor/Death the Brutal Way/Dopethrone/The Mantle/BWP/Catharisis/At the Heart of Winter. Scourge wrote:Well, look, you can never go home again (literary reference, look it up.) The stuff that defined a transition point in one's life is going to standout as a high point, and that's what a person is going to judge something current against. You'll never reclaim newness or the awe inspired by it. That's not to discount how great those albums actually were/are. But given experience, a person's objective opinion of something similar is always going to be colo(u)red by emotions that were incited that triggered chemical reactions that over time can't be felt at the same level, based on biology alone.

Bear with me, I've been drinking. In short, the reaction you had biologically to something totally new can only be repeated by the exposure to something else totally new, so you're chasing the dragon my friend.

In other words, it's impossible to be totally objective about the way you felt the first time around. Of course nothing measures up and you get bored.It kind of makes me envious of WN having a narrower focus because with that laser-like precision a person's expectations are expertly targeted over time, whereas for those of us wanting to be wowed by a new sound, it's a bit like stumbling through the dark hoping you collide with the object that puts a smile on your face instead of a frown. It's hit-or-miss, and mostly miss. But I feel ya. The doldrums of even bothering only become bearable by cleansing your palate with something completely unrelated. Until you start to relate it, and then start looking for stuff within metal that is tangential or comparable only to be disappointed on the whole.

And the vicious cycle then repeats.There's no easy answers. I think your celebration (rightly I might add) of Fu Manchu this year is a telltale sign that you are resetting. But it's not an absolute. You'll go back-and-forth between resetting and new discovery off and on. You'll enjoy your jazz, classical, post-punk and hardcore.

And after you've detoxed a bit, I wouldn't be surprised to find you wowed by something new in the metal arena.From a personal perspective, I think January and February of this year were far better than March and, so far, April. So it's been pretty rough listening for me recently when it comes to new releases. I think that's only a very small part of what you're feeling though. Regardless, have a cold craft brew, kick back with some Paganini or Art Blakey, turn it up, tune out, and when you need to be bludgeoned awake from your near stupor (just kidding), your old metal favorites will be waiting for you, and the Vortex will do its damnedest to taste-make for you so you don't have to think about it so hard.That was well written - great post!. Yeah it becomes quite obvious to me when I look down Mark's lengthy list of albums for each year of the oughts that we have such a very small amount of overlap in our taste that it's almost as if we will be talking about two entirely different decades. He's got quite a few records on that list that I find absolutely cringe-worthy and a whole lot of others I've never actually heard being that they're from bands and genres I care not for. And I'm sure he'll feel the same way about my list.

There are a handful of albums from the decade that we'd both have on our yearly top 20 lists as standouts, but literally like maybe 5 or 6 at the most out of several hundred albums. The oughts I remember were like a totally different decade. But of course I'm looking back at the decade from the underground evil goat metal perspective and he's looking at it from the more civilized, intellectual, mainstream major label metal prespective. I need to start cooking dinner here in a sec but later tonight when I get the kid to bed I will post my list of the best of the 2000's and the best of the 2010's (so far) and decide which decade is closer to my black heart. Serjien wrote:@Mark: I really enjoyed reading your initial post. Your musical journey is a very interesting one.

I often ponder on my own musical history, where I was in the 90' and 00's compared to where I am today. It is like putting together a puzzle, connecting all the bands that led you to discover this or that genre and that other band. I don't think I could ever write that down as well as you did. Great job!I struggle with organization-haha! After a year or so here, there were so many posts about lists and years, and I was always looking up albums on line. I have my digital library in a Sonos system that has it's own software.

It does all the work but has little tagging capabilities-like -almost none- other than song/album, genre/artist. So, I didn't have immediate access to identify everything I owned for a particular year. After a while, I decided to inventory my entire collection by year and put it in a document. A lot of the guys have a spreadsheet which is much wiser, I literally looked up every album I owned and put it in a word document which is about the stupidest way to do it, but I actually kind of had fun.

I'd do it at night when I was listening to music. At first I'd do internet searches and look up 'metal in 1985' or whatever and just went by year and started ticking off all the albums I had or had owned at one time. Then, I went through my digital genres in Sonos and went through each genre manually checking release dates online.

I even started cataloging my growing classical and jazz, but pretty much gave up by the time I got through jazz artists at letter 'C'- I need to finish my jazz list.Years ago I wouldn't have cared. I'd just have a an alphabetized collection of physical media. But, I just found when discussing music, and responding to 'lists', it's the year release and genre specific dates that I sometimes want to refer. Someone says, '1998 was a great year in music' and I had a vague sense of a few albums I had from in the late 90's (or whatever the case might be) but not the exact year. My memory sucks and it's great if I want to review what I own from a given year. And, looking through all the albums you've owned and loved gives you a great perspective of your habits, tastes, milestones in you life, where you were at a point on some arbitrary timeline.And, for anyone out there in the interwebs starting out, it's a lessons learned to find some music software tagging system that you like because when you get to a point of owning and knowing thousands of albums as we all do, it makes your life a little easier.

Nice lists Mark and WN. I have things in common with both of them, but my journey through 00's metal that wasn't in a -core- genre didn't occur until the 10's since I was 7-17 in the 00's. I listened to pop music, then a little bit of rap, then some nu-metal, metalcore and classic metal. I didn't really have anyone in particular to influence my tastes so it was just picking up bits of what I heard here and there from guitar hero, game soundtracks etc.

Thankfully it all led me to develop a metal palate that I'm happy with now.I also offer a third perspective on ordering: 00's 10's 90's. There's not much in it though.

I'm now discovering more 90's metal I never really listened to, so I've been grateful to you guys of that. I realise it's because It's what I was more readily exposed to in the beginning of my metal schooling, but I'd say 90's 10's 00's. The 90's was pretty much the golden age for black and death. Sure, there was a lot of clones and c-grade bands towards the end of the 90's but there was a freshness and innocence in the 90's.

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Partly becuase limitations of technology and the dominance of labels and magazines, but also because a lot of the genres we now take for granted were virgin grounds. I think the years right wafter the millenium shift was weird and confusing for metal (fucking Kovenant.). The adolescense was coming to an end and suddenly bands had to figure out who they were and what they wanted in life. The result was VERY hit and miss Come 10's and things have settled a bit, even USBM has started to sound like a proper genre! Great post Mark.Yes I believe the period 2000-2005 (though some might argue a couple of years after) was the last truly creative peak in metal. Even old genres ala death, heavy and black were reinvigorated. Sure there was stuff I hated (melodic metalcore) but they're still part of that creative wave.And a lot of this stuff owed its creativity to the foundations laid by underground late 1990s metal scene too via bands like Cryptopsy, SYL, Dark Tranquility, In Flames, Meshuggah, Opeth, Children of Bodom etc).It's been largely stagnation ever since.

Metal seems on autopilot right now.And hell, I even really like some of the stuff on your list!

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